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Please don't use any data about my dogs - of course these data can be used in an anonymous way, that is to say in such a way that
nobody can guess what dog, what kennel, what breeder, even what country is concerned - for example to know better the breed and
make statistics (HD,...) or to help to find genetic action (dewclaws, colours, ...) etc.
Menyus du Chant du Duna  12/08/96 Mano du Chant du Duna  22/08/96
Mester du Chant du Duna   01/08/96
Mārvāny du Chant du Duna in front of Mester du Chant du Duna   17/05/97
Mārvāny du Chant du Duna  22/03/97
Mārvāny du Chant du Duna   03/08/96 Masni du Chant du Duna  24/08/96
Menyus du Chant du Duna   02/04/97
Mester du Chant du Duna   26/08/97
Mano du Chant du Duna  17/05/97
Name :               Csodabogàr Ördög Kristàlyos
Sex :                   Male
Registration :   MET Mu 1096/B/94 (Hungary) and LOF 1.MUD.01/01 (France)
Date of birth :   17/03/94
Colour :              Black without marks
Date of death :  11/09/06


Name :                Csodabogàr Tancos Csenengye
Sex :                    Female
Registration :    MET Mu 1208/B/94 (Hungary) and LOF 1.MUD.02/01 (France)
Date of birth :    18/11/94
Colour :               Black with white mark on the chin
Date of death :   12/02/98



M-litter :

Date of birth :     21/06/96
Sire x dam :        Csodabogàr Ördög Kristàlyos x Csodabogàr Tancos Csenengye
Registration :
         - Mester du Chant du Duna, male, LOF 1.MUD.03, black with white marks and yellow-white marks
         - Menyus du Chant du Duna, male, LOF 1.MUD.04, black without marks
         - Màrvàny du Chant du Duna, male, LOF 1.MUD.05, black with white point on the chest
         - Mano du Chant du Duna, male, LOF 1.MUD.06, black with white point on the chest and yellow-white marks
         - Masni du Chant du Duna, male, LOF 1.MUD.07, black without marks, exported to Portugal where he has been                                   
                      registered in march 97                                





Pedigrees :
M-litter
Csodabogār Ördög Kristālyos Csodabogār Tancos Csenengye

Gallery :

Csodabogàr Ördög Kristàlyos :
19/06/94 - 13/08/094  (about his skin/fur problem : see below)     -   13/08/94 - 02/04/95     -     02/04/95 - 09/06/96     -     11/08/96 - 02/08/06


Csodabogàr : Tancos Csenengye :
16/04/95 - 17/12/97
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M-litter :
21/06/96 - 03/08/96              07/08/96 - 21/08/96            22/08/96 - 21/09/96        21/09/96 - 04/10/96

15/10/96 - 22/03/97        -     22/03/97 - 17/12/97      -
Fur/skin problem of Kristàlyos :  As it can be seen on the photos, when he was 3 months old, the fur was already bad : especially on
the belly, and the lower part of the flanks, the hair was thin, the skin could be been ; and on the body, the hair was flat, poor, less thin
than on the belly, however too thin ; I didn't know the Mudi breed, and in June the pup could be muddling, so I didn't realize that in fact
there was a problem - I didn't know that the hair would have had to be bushy, thick, etc. So I didn't react first. But the hair was thinner
and thinner and then missing, and the skin turned more or less reddish. I took him to the vet, who diagnosed mange. The treatment
was long and harsh, and during several months the hair had been thin or still missing. Then, at last, Kristàlyos showed a good enough
coat. I considered that mange was due to parasites, so I didn't think any more about this when I wanted to get a litter from him. But when
some of his sons (there was no bitch in my Mudi litter) began to show the first signs of mange, I began to wonder whether it could be in
relation with their father's mange ; I wondered if Kristàlyos was still wearing some mange parasites, and could have "given" some to the
pups. Of course I reacted quickly, and none of the pups had shown a very bad coat. Then the pups turned into adult dogs without any
health problem, and with thick coat, so when I got severe health problems, I searched new owners for them all without remembering
that they got mange : for me, it was a past thing. I didn't get news of them after the first weeks.
But a few years later, I was working about hereditary diseases in the Mudi breed, and I bought a book about hereditary diseases in
dogs ("Génétique et sélection chez le Chien" Pr Bernard Denis) and I discovered the key of the problem. I read in this book that  
mange in young dogs is due to immune deficiency ; in fact, these parasites (Demodex Canis) are living on a lot of dogs without
inducing any mange ; only when the body is weaker than normal, the mange can appear ; but when it appears in pups or young dogs,
that means that such pups have got immune deficiency, and
this immune deficiency is hereditary ; that explained why some sons got
mange and some others didn't, although all the pups were still sleeping one against the others : some had got immune deficiency,
some hadn't ; and of course, they got immune deficiency because they inherited this from Kristàlyos (or : at least from Kristàlyos).
As for Kristàlyos, he showed several times bad or even very bad coat, sometimes good coat, and generally rather poor coat, but I'm not
sure that this later coat problems were due to immune deficiency, it was no more mange. Nonetheless, I think that immune deficiency
is a severe problem and that pups who show mange ought to be eliminated from breeding (and the blamed parent too). Owing to my
ignorance (and no vet had told me that parasites weren't the only responsible thing of mange), Kristàlyos had got offspring, but luckily,
none of his sons had been used in breeding.